Amazing movie. So much to take in and contemplate. No matter who we are in the “pecking order”, we are all human; subject to deception and corruption as well as to love, kindness, truth and forgiveness.
I love, that in the end “God” (Love and Truth) wins.
Great review! Definitely teased out some of the more subtle points of the movie. I did not read the book but it seems since this reviewer has the movie kept the spirit and message. I was a little unsure of seeing the movie because I am very disillusioned with all things Hollywood but again as this movie protrays - if you are seeking God you will find Him in everything, if you are not seeking Him even a burning bush will mean nothing to you and you will pass by. I think that many people expect too much of their church. They want to go to it on Sunday for an hour or two and so be able to call their relationship with God good. The church more or less is by like the bank they put in the deposit of their time and $ and they then feel they have their eternity secured over and done with nothing to it a simple transaction for their benefit. But I think God wants a little more than that from us. Orthodoxy teaches that our salvation is a living growing dynamic within our soul that the church feeds and nourishes and protects and guides as a Mother does her child. So while we are distinct from the church we are both the Body of Christ. And the Body of Christ is Eternal and cannot be divided or separated from God we are One in the Holy Spirit.
Great point! The movie def has so many things to consider. And your article hit the nail on the head. I like how you unveiled a few hidden things within the movie that I missed.
I recently wrote a article on the theological undertones of “catcher in the rye”. Curious on your thoughts if you’d like to check it out.
Thank you for such an insightful reading of the film. I take the ending one step farther. In Innocent’s “condition” we have a living, physical manifestation of God—neither male nor female, but both, all. “I am as God made me,” he says in the most profound statement of the film. The surgery would have made Innocent “less than” rather than “both and.” That the all male Conclave has been brought to the election (without knowing it) of this truly inclusive figure is indeed a miracle.
I saw the turtle as a comment on the changes, even though pope Innocent heralds a new era, the church can not be expected to move faster than possible in its changes. After all, the church does not need to concern itself with the repurcussions of the here and now; their goal lies in eternity. The turtle will get there eventually, despite the intervention of the man Cardinal Lawrence
Amazing movie. So much to take in and contemplate. No matter who we are in the “pecking order”, we are all human; subject to deception and corruption as well as to love, kindness, truth and forgiveness.
I love, that in the end “God” (Love and Truth) wins.
Great review! Definitely teased out some of the more subtle points of the movie. I did not read the book but it seems since this reviewer has the movie kept the spirit and message. I was a little unsure of seeing the movie because I am very disillusioned with all things Hollywood but again as this movie protrays - if you are seeking God you will find Him in everything, if you are not seeking Him even a burning bush will mean nothing to you and you will pass by. I think that many people expect too much of their church. They want to go to it on Sunday for an hour or two and so be able to call their relationship with God good. The church more or less is by like the bank they put in the deposit of their time and $ and they then feel they have their eternity secured over and done with nothing to it a simple transaction for their benefit. But I think God wants a little more than that from us. Orthodoxy teaches that our salvation is a living growing dynamic within our soul that the church feeds and nourishes and protects and guides as a Mother does her child. So while we are distinct from the church we are both the Body of Christ. And the Body of Christ is Eternal and cannot be divided or separated from God we are One in the Holy Spirit.
Great point! The movie def has so many things to consider. And your article hit the nail on the head. I like how you unveiled a few hidden things within the movie that I missed.
I recently wrote a article on the theological undertones of “catcher in the rye”. Curious on your thoughts if you’d like to check it out.
Thank you for such an insightful reading of the film. I take the ending one step farther. In Innocent’s “condition” we have a living, physical manifestation of God—neither male nor female, but both, all. “I am as God made me,” he says in the most profound statement of the film. The surgery would have made Innocent “less than” rather than “both and.” That the all male Conclave has been brought to the election (without knowing it) of this truly inclusive figure is indeed a miracle.
I saw the turtle as a comment on the changes, even though pope Innocent heralds a new era, the church can not be expected to move faster than possible in its changes. After all, the church does not need to concern itself with the repurcussions of the here and now; their goal lies in eternity. The turtle will get there eventually, despite the intervention of the man Cardinal Lawrence
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